"in love with Roland again"..............

Hey SZoners..it is time...I have decided. I need a little more exercise , and I am looking for a Roland G70...seriously folks,.. I do want to get another Roland G70..I need to move this Like New Yamaha S900..we all know what a great keyboard it is...If anyone wants to move their Roland G70 and move into a Yamaha S900..I am willing to deal..Please email me , and let's see what we can come up with..

onemanband52@yahoo.com

Donny, my new one is still in the box it came in. I've spent enough time on one belonging to a friend of mine to know it isn't for me.

Not interested in ANY Yamaha. I am thinking of setting it up in the warehouse, along with other equipment I don't use (Hammond M. Rhodes, Clavinova, etc.). If I change my mind this week, I'll let you know. Would like it to go to someone I know if I decide to get rid of it.

Hope you're successful in finding one.

Russ

Russ you have mail....
Thanks for the reply.

The more things change, the more things stay the same...

Let the pool begin. It's gone 12 weeks after he gets it.

Any takers?

(How long did you keep the first one, Donny?)

12 weeks..that would make the G70 the champion..

Actually Donny dumped the G70 before because of the weight with his multi scheduled jobs everyday,,,....Only soon to find out after owning the rest of the crop[that is crop not crap]..that there is a reason the G70 weighed more..Quality..

So he has realized..hey it is time to get a real durable board that does many things well...and stop the compromising..

I'm happy with my E-60, but if I were to consider another keyboard it would also be another G-70. It's a great board and on a second time around I think I could psych myself into handling the weight and overlooking my issues with the drawbars sounds. Not having any Korg keyboards to try, I'd probably also consider a PA2x if I could get one at a G-70 price.

And, Fran, if you believe this will be the end of Donny's 'roaming', you simply don't know him as well as you think you do!

But I agree... 12 weeks is a little optimistic. The sensible money will be on 8...

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Fran, I don't know that 'durability' has got a lot to do with it. Come on now, we all know that donny's winds of change will be more influenced by some internal feature or other.

I'm going with Diki's 8-week secenario.

I'm not sure now whether or not donny is more famous for his musical abilities or his gear instabilities.

It's all rather entertaiing, though - and the man is an entertainer. Right, donny?

Renig right you are.....talent never changes....if people wouldn't worry about what Im playing so much and worry about how they themselves play or entertain this would be a better world.....Ive gone out giggin with many different boards in 40 years so what?
let me give you a tip...dont bet your money on my entertaining value or you'll be crying along with diki when you lose

Cocky? No....Just confident in my abilities!

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I have a CD Donny recorded called "Swinging with the Big Bands" IMHO the guy has got talent. The cut from the CD "Quando Quando, Quando" done as a duo with his daugher is terrific. Very reminiscent of Michael Buble and Nelly Furtado's version. I think I could give Donny a $299 Casio and he'd still be booked solid. Go get 'em Donny enjoy your G70.

Thank You Stephen...
Im just making a living like the rest of us.
When will people realize its NOT the KB their useing

I don't see that word in my post: care to retract?

Make a living with this keyboard..
http://magnusorgangroup.tripod.com/

No....just referring to MY reply.

I had one as a kid great key feel too

I don't know why we get so worked up about how many kbs Donny buys in a year, month or week. or a DAY ... what difference does it make? ...
We KNOW whatever one he is using today is THE BEST ... for TODAY, that is ...
But then it does give us something to discuss, doesn't it ??? ...
And think of how he is helping the economy !!!
t.

Donny,

What put the G70 over the top for you? I thought you didn't like 76 keys? Isn't this the first keyboard you've used with 76?

I was sure you were gonna go for the Pa2xpro.

Al

Al...where ya been?

I've used so many 76ers in my day...
most recently SD1, A37, WK3100, G70, its dosn't matter to me 61 or 76 there are advantages to both....

I told you to keep the PSR-3000. I'll get the fork lift out of the shed.

Good Luck,

Gary

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Gary I love you man!!
always the voice of reason.....maybe I'll stick with the S900 for now ....
have you designed the permanent USB storage mount for it yet?....

I'm still trying to find the a right-angle adaptor that will fit in the space without rubbing against the case. Once I find it, the rest of the job is a piece of cake.

I was going to buy the parts for the keyboard lifting bars today, but the weather turned nasty, freezing rain, snow, etc.., had to cancel tonight's job and couldn't get to the shop that has the channel aluminum I need. Maybe tomorrow if the weather warms up enough to melt the ice.

Gary

Gary

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Gary sounds good cant wait to see the final creation.....always appreciated.

I keep telling you Donny, wait a bit longer... Why buy the old G70 when you can buy the ne....oops should not go too far with that...but suffice it to say a little patience may be rewarded, in a big way.


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Miden good advice for sure....& being I tried most of the offerings in the past I might just have to relinquish my anxiety to being a bit more patient & wait probably till the new year for my next Arranger & with some luck something I will keep for a while. Dont get me wrong I enjoy the S900/T2/3k sounds & styles, but for me its more of some needed features & navigational issues which Yamaha hopefully will implement in future models down the road so you dont have to play in "WORKAROUND" mode all the time. Assignable Sliders, MFD that Saves Transpose & All parameters, Separate & Simultaneous Play Style & SMF abilities,Quality Voc/Harmonizer, Better keybed & feel, Choice of 61 or 76 Key models, Larger Tilt screen on all models, Duel XLR Mic inputs, Larger User Flash Ram, Dual Front USB ports, & also have some user availability to purchase extra plug-ins boards to accommodate THEIR NEEDS & make the KB their own & give people a choice as to some things they want or never use.




[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 02-13-2008).]

So let's see which of those the G70 has...

Sliders... no (hardwired to separate functions)
MFD... no (some parameters can't be remembered)
Style and SMF sync... no
Harmonizer... yes (finally!)
Keybed... yes (of course, the best! Remember your professed lack of need for it during your 3k days? ))
Choice of 61 or 76... no (the E80 is quite different in it's soundset, and a LOT more expensive)
Tilt screen... no (same angle problem as S900, just not as bad)
Dual XLRs... no
Large Flash RAM... no (50MB won't go far for your extensive song-list, it shares it with the ROM styles and UPGs)
Dual front USB ports... no (one backside USB slave port, no Master at all)
Plug-in boards... yes (but only one SRX slot, now defunct technology)

Sounds like your perfect arranger.

Look, Donny, we all know you can play. What none of us get, I guess, is what are you just so unhappy about? You've now gone through every single arranger there is (except PA2X, that'll be next!), and now you are going through them a second time... Firstly, what made you dislike them after you had auditioned them and then decided to buy them? Surely you could have figured that out in the store (like synced SMF/arranger play). And now, even more puzzling, what makes you go BACK to an arranger you bought, dismissed (quite vocally!), and sold..?

What makes you SO satisfied with your playing (which I hope even YOU will admit COULD be made better if you put the attention to it you put to the hardware), but so dissatisfied with your equipment? If the arranger is SO unimportant to your show, why bother in the first place? What does it matter, if changing them out so often has NO impact on your show? Do you really have nothing better to do?

I guess it boils down to the fact that, I think MOST of us here think that the player IS 90% of the show, so why waste so much time on something that, firstly, only impacts 10% of the overall sound (or even less if you use MP3's of older gear), and apparently, according to you, makes 0% of a difference to your 'entertaining' skills. If that is the case (no reason to believe differently) you are spending a lot of money and time on something that makes no difference!

To be honest, I'm not sure that is sane, in the first place ( ), and secondly, anything that I want to hear about. Yes, of course we all want to hear about new gear, how it works, what it is good and bad at. But sadly, your posts do nothing but gush over your latest toy, until the day you say you are going to sell it, and even then it's hard to get a cogent explanation of WHY you changed other than 'something new is out!'. Now, to me, that's of little use. And, I'm fairly sure, not many of the rest of us get much out of it either, except to cheer along while you temporarily use what WE are using!

With all you vast knowledge of how to entertain, how to get an audience to participate, how to keep yourself permanently booked, which hat to wear for which song, etc., I guess some of us would like to hear something more important from you on this forum that what arranger you just bought. ESPECIALLY as you yourself admit it has NO importance whatsoever..!

Why not post something that matters?

Donny,

After looking at the drawings, and talking with a local guy that uses an S-900 daily, there doesn't seem to be a way to install a right-angle plug in the USB slot and leave it there permanently. There are some options, but this isn't among them. The USB slot it positioned in an area where it would be vulnerable to damage when the keyboard is placed in the case and transported. The only viable option is to mount a small hub in a protected area, then route a cable to the USB connection that has a right angle connector. Then the Thumb Drives can remain in the hub, however, the cable would have to be unplugged before transporting.

The only other option involves installing a USB powered hard drive within the case, which would void the warranty.

One of the many areas where Yamaha dropped the ball with the design of their latest series of keyboards was to eliminate the Smart Media Card. It could have easily been replaced with either an optional 2.5-inch hard drive, or one of the other high-capacity storage devices that could be installed and remain in place.

Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance with this problem.

Gary

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Gary as always ....
I appreciate your concise investigations into improving the S900 & beyond...."workarounds" are how I roll with most of today's arrangers....
It's imperative & the only way to make it all come together when performing, but what else is new?. As I said before I'm on a holding pattern for now...I'm done with the old & waiting for the new.....my fingers are crossed.

Don't they make a USB extention cable? I've seen tham at school, but I think they came with our Power macs. I'm sure a tiny usb cable could stuff behind the center post on that Apex stand. I've had them in the past, but I had to move away from them because of the 2 awkward "knockover" points that it has. The shape just doesn't do it for me, but Donny hardly leaves the kb alone at his 1 hr shows, and his clients are so poilte ( AKA "old" ) at his Thursday night dance, that no one messes with his gear if he's on break! I always woried about some drunk falling into my gear and knocking the darn thing over.

The key to using an Apex stand...is to use a keyboard that weighs enough to stabilize..

"Please Help Me I'm Falling.".....................

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When I first saw the (above) title of your post, I eagerly clicked on it.........until I realized there was no cliff involved.



chas

Hey Fran. Bout time you learn something about the laws of physics. If you place a heavy object on a small footprint stand, the topple factor increases exponentially. The heavier the top object, the easier it is to topple. A ligher keyboard has a far less chance of toppling on a small footprint stand. Kinda' like trying to balance a brick on a pencil point, if you get my drift. Of course you probably knew that already, but just wanted to stir up some imaginative posts.

Cheers,

Gary

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Travlin' Easy

Dave,

I found lots of right angle USB adapters at www.Cyberguys.com and they will solve the clearance problem with the stand. However, what I was trying to come up with is something that would allow the USB to remain plugged in all the time, similar to the PSR-3000s smart media card, which many users utilize like a small hard drive. It just stays in the slot and it is fully protected because it doesn't protrude out. Unfortunately, the Smart Media Card slot in the S-900 was not replaced with either a small hard drive, or some other form of card storage device with high capacity. The USB socket in the back of the keyboard was placed in a location that prevents any plug from being left in place because it would be damaged when the keyboard is placed inside the case.

Gary

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Bummer, man. My PA800 has a neat little "pouch" for the USB drive right on the front panel. I forget it's there sometimes !